{"id":88,"date":"2005-11-27T21:06:05","date_gmt":"2005-11-27T21:06:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/index.php\/2005\/11\/27\/flickr-vs-webshots\/"},"modified":"2005-11-27T21:06:05","modified_gmt":"2005-11-27T21:06:05","slug":"flickr-vs-webshots","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2005\/11\/27\/flickr-vs-webshots\/","title":{"rendered":"Flickr vs. Webshots"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Thomas Hawk, a Flickr fan who writes a technology blog  at thomashawk.com, recently linked to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eirikso.com\/2005\/11\/25\/flickr-and-webshots-a-classic-web20-case\/\">an interesting post by Norwegian engineer and blogger Eirik Solheim<\/a>, who compared Flickr &#8212; the former Vancouver-based photo site that is now part of the Yahoo empire &#8212; with Webshots, a photo site that is celebrating its 10th anniversary. <\/p>\n<p>A chart <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alexa.com\/data\/details\/traffic_details?&amp;range=1y&amp;size=medium&amp;compare_sites=flickr.com&amp;y=r&amp;url=webshots.com#top\">mapping the traffic patterns<\/a> from both sites (courtesy of Alexa.com) is quite instructive, in that Webshots has been going steadily downward in terms of &#8220;daily reach&#8221; while Flickr has been going steadily upwards. Flickr is about to pass Webshots, and the site hasn&#8217;t even been in existence for two years.<\/p>\n<p>As both Thomas and Eirik note, this is likely because Flickr is a much better example of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oreillynet.com\/pub\/a\/oreilly\/tim\/news\/2005\/09\/30\/what-is-web-20.html\">a &#8220;Web 2.0&#8221; service<\/a>. In other words, it does a better job of taking advantage of the interactive Web. It is easy to use, it has a simple interface with not a lot of cluttered advertising, and it emphasizes community through the use of tags, groups, comments, contacts and so on &#8212; not to mention RSS feeds for everything and an open API. A lesson to be learned, and not just for photo sites.<\/p>\n<p><b>Update:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Narendra Rocherolle, one of the founders of Webshots, has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nosoapradio.org\/?p=73\">taken issue with the Web 2.0-style comparison<\/a> between that company and Flickr for a number of reasons, including the fact that he says Photobucket is also growing just as quickly as Flickr and is not a Web 2.0 company. Leaving aside the &#8220;what is Web 2.0&#8221; question, I would argue that Photobucket is growing because it also encourages sharing (or distributing), just in a different way than Flickr &#8212; and both do so in ways that Webshots doesn&#8217;t. That is the important point, I think.<\/p>\n<p><b>Update 2:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>A story from Associated Press <a href=\"http:\/\/www.globetechnology.com\/servlet\/story\/RTGAM.20051128.gtmapquestnov28\/BNStory\/Technology\/\">makes a similar point about Mapquest<\/a>, although you have to read between the lines. Mapquest is the most popular map site, but is facing increasing competition from Google &#8212; in part because of features such as satellite images (which Mapquest used to have, but got rid of because it didn&#8217;t think they were useful) but also because it doesn&#8217;t have an open API. That means if you want to do &#8220;mash-ups&#8221; like <a href=\"http:\/\/beerhunter.ca\">beerhunter.ca<\/a> you have to use Google, and I would argue that is a crucial difference &#8212; not just in useability, but in the way the two companies are structured &#8212; and that in turn ultimately affects how attractive the service is.<\/p>\n<div class=\"syndication-links\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Thomas Hawk, a Flickr fan who writes a technology blog at thomashawk.com, recently linked to an interesting post by Norwegian engineer and blogger Eirik Solheim, who compared Flickr &#8212; the former Vancouver-based photo site that is now part of the Yahoo empire &#8212; with Webshots, a photo site that is celebrating its 10th anniversary. A &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2005\/11\/27\/flickr-vs-webshots\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Flickr vs. Webshots&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crsspst_to_mathewingramblogwordpresscom":false,"mf2_syndication":[],"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-88","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/88","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=88"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/88\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=88"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=88"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=88"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}