{"id":824,"date":"2006-12-12T22:49:43","date_gmt":"2006-12-13T03:49:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/2006\/12\/12\/craig-and-wall-street-universes-apart\/"},"modified":"2006-12-12T22:49:43","modified_gmt":"2006-12-13T03:49:43","slug":"craig-and-wall-street-universes-apart","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2006\/12\/12\/craig-and-wall-street-universes-apart\/","title":{"rendered":"Craig and Wall Street &#8212; universes apart"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It was a few days ago now, but the New York Times&#8217; DealBook blog had <a href=\"http:\/\/dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com\/2006\/12\/08\/craigslist-meets-the-capitalists\/\">a great little item<\/a> about Craigslist CEO Jim Buckmaster meeting with Wall Street types at the UBS global media conference. Naturally, the analysts wanted to hear a bit about the gazillions of page views that Craigslist gets, and how it is making about $50-million or so a year <a href=\"http:\/\/www.paidcontent.org\/entry\/craigslist-revenues-could-reach-50-million-in-2007-report\">without even trying<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Jim, however, said the site had no real interest in maximizing revenue. Although he and Craig had looked at running ads, they had no plans to do so, he said, because &#8212; get this &#8212; users hadn&#8217;t said they wanted them. The only reason that Craigslist charges fees at all (to professional real estate agents for posting apartment ads in several cities) is that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2006\/02\/03\/AR2006020302749.html\">users complained<\/a> about the ads, so the fees were instituted <em>as a way of driving them away<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" id=\"image825\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2006\/12\/craig%20newmark.jpg?w=525\" alt=\"craig newmark.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<p>In the DeaBook pieces, Wendy Davis of MediaPost describes the presentation as a \u00e2\u20ac\u0153a culture clash of near-epic proportions.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d She says UBS analyst Ben Schachter asked how Craigslist planned to maximize revenue. We don&#8217;t have any such plans, Mr. Buckmaster said. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153It\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s not part of the goal.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Mr. Schachter&#8217;s response: \u00e2\u20ac\u0153I think a lot of people are catching their breath right now.&#8221; I&#8217;ll bet.<\/p>\n<p>Craigslist currently gets a mind-blowing 5 billion page views or so a month. A premier site like Craigslist &#8212; and one that is focused on classified advertising, which is inherently purchasing-type behaviour &#8212; would likely command a fairly high CPM rate for ads. Let&#8217;s say theoretically it was $10 per thousand. That would bring in $50-million <em>a month<\/em> (StartupBoy says Craigslist is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.startupboy.com\/journal\/2006\/2\/6\/craigslist-is-worth-more-than-ebay.html\">worth more than eBay<\/a>, and he doesn&#8217;t even include ads). <\/p>\n<p>But Craig would rather focus on the user. Brilliant? Or deluded?<\/p>\n<p><b>Update:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Kevin Burton of TailRank says that Craigslist should be taking all that money from advertising and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.feedblog.org\/2006\/12\/craigslist_goes.html\">giving it to the poor<\/a> (he expands on that idea <a href=\"http:\/\/www.feedblog.org\/2006\/12\/craigslist_and_.html\">here<\/a>), but that Craig &#8220;thinks money is evil&#8221; (Craig responds in the comments that that isn&#8217;t true). Chuqui says Kevin and others should <a href=\"http:\/\/chuqui.typepad.com\/chuqui_30\/2006\/12\/kevin_burtons_f.html\">leave Craig alone<\/a> and that Craigslist is being true to its vision. The Scobleizer <a href=\"http:\/\/scobleizer.com\/2006\/12\/12\/sites-shouldnt-be-forced-into-taking-advertising\/\">agrees<\/a>, and so does Nick Douglas at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/eat-the-press\/2006\/12\/13\/craigslist-robs-food-from_e_36150.html\">Eat The Press<\/a>. And Dan Farber and larry Dignan at ZDNet took on this issue <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.zdnet.com\/BTL\/?p=4082\">back on Dec. 7<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"syndication-links\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It was a few days ago now, but the New York Times&#8217; DealBook blog had a great little item about Craigslist CEO Jim Buckmaster meeting with Wall Street types at the UBS global media conference. Naturally, the analysts wanted to hear a bit about the gazillions of page views that Craigslist gets, and how it &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2006\/12\/12\/craig-and-wall-street-universes-apart\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Craig and Wall Street &#8212; universes apart&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crsspst_to_mathewingramblogwordpresscom":false,"mf2_syndication":[],"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-824","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/824","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=824"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/824\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=824"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=824"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=824"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}