{"id":475,"date":"2006-08-23T17:17:46","date_gmt":"2006-08-23T21:17:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/2006\/08\/23\/yes-its-always-about-dave\/"},"modified":"2006-08-23T17:17:46","modified_gmt":"2006-08-23T21:17:46","slug":"yes-its-always-about-dave","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2006\/08\/23\/yes-its-always-about-dave\/","title":{"rendered":"Yes, it&#8217;s always about Dave"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I must admit I was somewhat interested when I saw a mention of Dave Winer&#8217;s new (or not so new, depending on whom you read) mobile &#8220;river of news&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scripting.com\/2006\/08\/22.html#whatsNewForYourBlackberry\">thingamajig<\/a> &#8212; if only because I have used a BlackBerry and a Treo and a UTStarcom Windows device to read RSS feeds, and have yet to find anything that I really like. Google&#8217;s mobile version of its Reader comes close, but it has its flaws too. So I checked out the mobile feed that Dave set up for the <a href=\"http:\/\/nytimesriver.com\">New York Times<\/a>, and for the BBC, and it looked OK. But it still was kind of klunky in a way that is difficult to describe, as far as navigation is concerned.<\/p>\n<p>There were a couple of other things that rubbed me the wrong way too, and others have put them into words for me: Paul Kedrosky, for example, was one of the ones who <a href=\"http:\/\/paul.kedrosky.com\/archives\/2006\/08\/22\/dave_winer_redi.html\">noted that<\/a> this type of feed is hardly new &#8212; as did <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cadenhead.org\/workbench\/news\/3001\/cry-me-news-river-dave-winer\">Rogers Cadenhead<\/a>, who admittedly has a somewhat fractious past involving Mr. Winer and some lawyers and so forth, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tinyscreenfuls.com\/2006\/08\/reinventing-the-mobile-web-with-dave-winer\/\">Josh Bancroft<\/a> (although Josh seems to have modified his thoughts somewhat since).<\/p>\n<p>As usual when Dave is involved, one of the irritants was just the way he puts things &#8212; not just grandstanding, as he does about how much money he makes, but also the cryptic comments that make it obvious he&#8217;s trying to get back at someone. My buddy Kent Newsome does <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newsome.org\/2006\/08\/lets-all-grow-up-and-play-nice-shall.shtml\">a good job<\/a> of describing this Winer M.O., although he is much kinder that I usually am. <\/p>\n<p>As for the idea that Dave&#8217;s rivers of news will be easier for people to read than existing solutions, how easy is it to have to bookmark a new URL for every new mobile feed? I get the fact that he&#8217;s working on something like mobile Bloglines, which Josh said changed his mind about the whole thing &#8212; I just don&#8217;t see why he has to pretend that it&#8217;s some kind of revolution. Ian Betteridge <a href=\"http:\/\/technovia.typepad.com\/technovia\/2006\/08\/river_of_what.html\">wonders too<\/a>, and as usual, Shelley has her own caustic and hilarious <a href=\"http:\/\/bbgun.burningbird.net\/trends\/introducing-yellowgator\/\">take on it<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"syndication-links\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I must admit I was somewhat interested when I saw a mention of Dave Winer&#8217;s new (or not so new, depending on whom you read) mobile &#8220;river of news&#8221; thingamajig &#8212; if only because I have used a BlackBerry and a Treo and a UTStarcom Windows device to read RSS feeds, and have yet to &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2006\/08\/23\/yes-its-always-about-dave\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Yes, it&#8217;s always about Dave&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crsspst_to_mathewingramblogwordpresscom":false,"mf2_syndication":[],"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-475","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/475","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=475"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/475\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=475"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=475"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=475"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}