{"id":252789,"date":"2022-11-09T17:14:45","date_gmt":"2022-11-09T17:14:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/?p=252789"},"modified":"2022-11-09T17:14:45","modified_gmt":"2022-11-09T17:14:45","slug":"classic-european-pseudo-royal-nonsense","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2022\/11\/09\/classic-european-pseudo-royal-nonsense\/","title":{"rendered":"Classic European pseudo-royal nonsense"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-23.png?w=525&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-252793\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Corinna zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This kind of thing fascinates me &#8212; the former mistress of the ex-king of Spain, Juan Carlos IV (who abdicated due under a cloud of corruption allegations) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/world-europe-63554139\">is Corinna zu Sayn-Wittgenstein<\/a>, whose full name is&nbsp;Corinna zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn. She got the name by marrying&nbsp;Casimir, who is supposedly a prince of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn.&nbsp;And what is that, you might ask? It was a kind of mini-country that existed briefly in the 1600s <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn\">as part of what is now Germany<\/a>, and the hereditary rulers of it continue to call themselves princes, and presumably have wealth they inherited (stole) from when they ran things.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Why does it have the name Sayn in it twice? Great question. Who knows! There are actually a dozen or so other <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sayn\">former fiefdoms with Sayn in the name<\/a>, including Sayn-Homburg, Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg. and&nbsp;Sponheim-Sayn. Classic European nonsense really. On a related note, I remember coming across a photo of Donald Trump when he was president, meeting with a couple who were described as the &#8220;Prince and Princess of the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies.&#8221; And what was that? Same kind of thing &#8212; <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Kingdom_of_the_Two_Sicilies\">a thing that existed in the 1800s<\/a> for about 50 years, including Sicily and Naples, before Italy became a country.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The best part is that Prince Carlo, who says he&#8217;s the hereditary leader of this imaginary country, is only <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Prince_Carlo,_Duke_of_Castro\">one of two claimants to the non-existent throne<\/a> (which also apparently gives him control over the&nbsp;Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George, whatever that is). Apparently after the death of the last uncontested head of the house,&nbsp;Ferdinand Pius, in 1960, the non-existent throne was supposed to go to his nephew,&nbsp;Infante Alfonso, son of Ferdinand&#8217;s brother Carlos. But Carlos married&nbsp;Mar\u00eda de las Mercedes, Princess of Asturias, who was the heir presumptive to the throne of Spain, in 1901. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/image-22.png?w=525&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-252792\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Prince Carlo and Princess Camilla<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">According to Wikipedia, as a result of the marriage, Carlos&#8217;s family forced him to renounce his claim to the crown of the Two Sicilies, because of a centuries-old agreement that the kingdoms of Spain and the Two Sicilies were not supposed to merge. <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Prince_Carlo,_Duke_of_Castro\">This renunciation was interpreted by some<\/a> as removing Carlos and his descendants from the line of succession of the Two Sicilies. But others argued that this would only have applied if Carlos&#8217;s wife or an eventual son had actually become the sovereign of Spain, which did not happen (because, of course, the kingdom of Spain ceased to exist). Confused yet?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Anyway, the upshot is that there are two guys &#8212; Carlo and Pedro &#8212; who are both claiming to be the hereditary rulers of a kingdom that doesn&#8217;t exist, and was only around for about 50 years to begin with. If you like this kind of thing, there are literally dozens of other pretenders to non-existent or imaginary thrones in Europe, including the&nbsp;Count of Paris, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Archduke_Gottfried_of_Austria\">Gottfried of Austria-Tuscany<\/a> (whose full name is Gottfried Maria Joseph Peter Ferdinand Hubert Anton Rupert Leopold Heinrich Ignaz Alfons, Erzherzog von \u00d6sterreich, Prinz von Toskana), along with the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Albrecht,_Duke_of_Bavaria\">Duke of Bavaria<\/a>, the&nbsp;Duke of W\u00fcrttemberg, the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Prince_Amedeo,_Duke_of_Aosta_(1943-2021)\">Duke of Aosta<\/a>, the&nbsp;Duke of Genoa, the&nbsp;Duke of Hohenberg,&nbsp;Prince Luiz of Orl\u00e9ans-Braganza&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Prince_Michael_of_Greece_and_Denmark\">Prince Michael of Greece<\/a>. Classic European nonsense!<\/p>\n<div class=\"syndication-links\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This kind of thing fascinates me &#8212; the former mistress of the ex-king of Spain, Juan Carlos IV (who abdicated due under a cloud of corruption allegations) is Corinna zu Sayn-Wittgenstein, whose full name is&nbsp;Corinna zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn. She got the name by marrying&nbsp;Casimir, who is supposedly a prince of Sayn-Wittgenstein-Sayn.&nbsp;And what is that, you might &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2022\/11\/09\/classic-european-pseudo-royal-nonsense\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Classic European pseudo-royal nonsense&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crsspst_to_mathewingramblogwordpresscom":false,"mf2_syndication":[],"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-252789","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/252789","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=252789"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/252789\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=252789"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=252789"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=252789"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}