{"id":2321,"date":"2008-04-06T15:44:47","date_gmt":"2008-04-06T20:44:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/?p=2321"},"modified":"2008-04-06T15:44:47","modified_gmt":"2008-04-06T20:44:47","slug":"loren-feldman-vs-shel-israel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2008\/04\/06\/loren-feldman-vs-shel-israel\/","title":{"rendered":"Loren Feldman vs. Shel Israel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I find it kind of interesting that not many people &#8212; or at least not many mainstream bloggers &#8212; are writing about Shel Israel and his ongoing battle with video-blogger Loren Feldman of 1938media. Matt Craven from The Blog Herald has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blogherald.com\/2008\/04\/05\/how-a-videoblogger-from-nyc-outsmarted-a-so-called-social-media-expert\/\">just done so in a post<\/a> about how Shel has lost a lot of his respect for doing two things: 1) Making crappy videos, and 2) Failing to respond to Loren&#8217;s jabs at him in the spirit of his book &#8220;Naked Conversations.&#8221; Shel&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/redcouch.typepad.com\/weblog\/2008\/04\/blog-herald-cal.html\">response is here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>For anyone who has an actual life and hasn&#8217;t been paying attention to the brouhaha between Shel and Loren, it started when Shel began doing video interviews for FastCompany.tv. Loren &#8212; who makes corporate videos and also does his own blend of free-form comedy and commentary videos at 1938media.com &#8212; began criticizing the quality of Shel&#8217;s videos mercilessly on Twitter and on his blog, and also started posting parodies of Shel&#8217;s videos using Muppet-style hand puppets.<\/p>\n<p>At some point, Loren also noticed that Shel hadn&#8217;t bothered to register the domain name version of his name, ShelIsrael.com. So Loren did, and it is now filled with parodies of Shel using the puppets, with some of Shel&#8217;s actual videos mixed in. At this point, I should probably mention that I know and like Loren &#8212; we had him as a panelist at the mesh conference last year, and he is very funny. But there&#8217;s no question that he likes it &#8220;edgy,&#8221; as they say, and not everyone takes to that.<\/p>\n<p>Regardless of what you think about Loren grabbing Shel&#8217;s domain name, or taking repeated shots at him on Twitter and elsewhere, there&#8217;s no question in my mind that Loren is just having fun with Shel &#8212; just as he has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.1938media.com\/jason-calacanis-is-a-moron\/\">with Jason Calacanis<\/a>, Mike Arrington and Robert Scoble, all of whom are now friends. As Aaron Brazell notes in <a href=\"http:\/\/redcouch.typepad.com\/weblog\/2008\/04\/blog-herald-cal.html#comment-109613440\">a comment<\/a> on Shel&#8217;s blog, Loren often goes after people he either respects or likes &#8212; it&#8217;s the video equivalent of a boy pinching a girl when he likes her.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s why I thought the best take on this whole thing came from Tom over at Tom&#8217;s Tech Blog, who has written a thoughtful post about how Shel has handled this whole affair in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tomstechblog.com\/post\/2008\/04\/Shel-Israel-vs-Loren-and-the-Puppet.aspx\">completely the wrong way<\/a>. It&#8217;s not just that he has been sniping at Loren on Twitter, or threatening to get private investigators to look into his background &#8212; it&#8217;s more that he hasn&#8217;t followed through on the principles in his book. And more than that, he&#8217;s made it obvious that he doesn&#8217;t really have much of a <a href=\"http:\/\/chartreuse.wordpress.com\/2008\/04\/06\/a-one-and-a-two-or-how-to-deal-with-loren-fcking-feldman\/\">sense of humour<\/a> either. For a comedian like Loren, that is the ultimate flaw.<\/p>\n<div class=\"syndication-links\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I find it kind of interesting that not many people &#8212; or at least not many mainstream bloggers &#8212; are writing about Shel Israel and his ongoing battle with video-blogger Loren Feldman of 1938media. Matt Craven from The Blog Herald has just done so in a post about how Shel has lost a lot of &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2008\/04\/06\/loren-feldman-vs-shel-israel\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Loren Feldman vs. Shel Israel&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crsspst_to_mathewingramblogwordpresscom":false,"mf2_syndication":[],"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2321","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2321","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2321"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2321\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2321"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2321"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2321"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}