{"id":2311,"date":"2008-04-03T16:26:57","date_gmt":"2008-04-03T21:26:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/?p=2311"},"modified":"2008-04-03T16:26:57","modified_gmt":"2008-04-03T21:26:57","slug":"hey-you-kids","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2008\/04\/03\/hey-you-kids\/","title":{"rendered":"Hey you kids &#8212; knock it off back there"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I debated whether to write this post on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alleyinsider.com\/2008\/4\/techcrunch_v_demo_smackdown_calacanis_blasts_idg_offers_chris_shipley_a_job\">the brouhaha<\/a> (or is it a kerfuffle?) between TechCrunch50 &#8212; which is being run by Mike Arrington and Jason &#8220;I&#8217;m more famous than you&#8221; Calacanis &#8212; and Chris Shipley&#8217;s DEMO conference. After all, it&#8217;s really a lose-lose situation: if I agree with Mike then I&#8217;m one of Arrington&#8217;s toadies (as some commenters have accused me of being), and if I agree with Shipley then Mike will take it badly.. But I just can&#8217;t resist a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techmeme.com\/080403\/p102#a080403p102\">good blogosphere donnybrook<\/a> or &#8220;bitchmeme,&#8221; so I figured, what the hell, why not wade in.<\/p>\n<p>Off the top, I think Mike saying that DEMO &#8220;needs to die&#8221; is a little strong. As Carla Thompson of DEMO <a href=\"http:\/\/guidewiregroup.wordpress.com\/2008\/04\/03\/lets-get-real-business-is-not-personal\/\">writes at Guidewire<\/a>, we&#8217;re just talking about a couple of tech conferences here &#8212; it&#8217;s not the Battle of Biscayne or the War of the Roses, or even the battle between MacLeod and the Kurgan in <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0091203\/\">Highlander<\/a><\/em> (great movie, even if Christopher Lambert&#8217;s Scottish accent is laughable). Still, there&#8217;s no call for Carla to say that Mike&#8217;s ego is over-inflated and he needs to &#8220;get over himself.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The bottom line for me is this: Jason Calacanis (unfortunately) is completely right when he says that DEMO&#8217;s model is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.alleyinsider.com\/2008\/4\/techcrunch_v_demo_smackdown_calacanis_blasts_idg_offers_chris_shipley_a_job\">completely untenable<\/a> &#8212; or should be. Charging companies $18,500 for a three-minute pitch is just ridiculous, no matter how many times you <a href=\"http:\/\/guidewiregroup.wordpress.com\/2008\/04\/03\/lets-get-real-business-is-not-personal\/\">talk about<\/a> all the mentoring and coaching and contacts and stage managing you get. If I&#8217;m a startup, why don&#8217;t I just keep the $18,500 and buy my own mentors and coaches and whatnot? Or better yet, buy some food or pay the hosting bill.<\/p>\n<p>Now, TechCrunch50 (which started as TechCrunch20 and then became TechCrunch40) is hardly a charitable enterprise, as Cynthia Brumfield has pointed out <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ipdemocracy.com\/archives\/002656techcrunch40_silicon_valleys_latest_cash_cow.php\">in the past<\/a>. The two lads are likely to pull in several million at least, depending on their costs &#8212; and yes, there are fees to take part in the &#8220;demo pit&#8221; (which I picture as a sort of Jell-O and dirt-filled kids&#8217; swimming pool type of arrangement, like something you would see on the Gladiators TV show), but they are an order of magnitude smaller than the fees that DEMO charges for a few minutes of glory.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s no doubt that Mike&#8217;s pugnacious attitude (much of which is for show, as far as I can tell) can rub people the wrong way &#8212; and I would expect it&#8217;s doubly irritating when he happens to be right, and when he&#8217;s also making you look bad in the process, as I think he is in this case.<\/p>\n<div class=\"syndication-links\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I debated whether to write this post on the brouhaha (or is it a kerfuffle?) between TechCrunch50 &#8212; which is being run by Mike Arrington and Jason &#8220;I&#8217;m more famous than you&#8221; Calacanis &#8212; and Chris Shipley&#8217;s DEMO conference. After all, it&#8217;s really a lose-lose situation: if I agree with Mike then I&#8217;m one of &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2008\/04\/03\/hey-you-kids\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Hey you kids &#8212; knock it off back there&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crsspst_to_mathewingramblogwordpresscom":false,"mf2_syndication":[],"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2311","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2311","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2311"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2311\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2311"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2311"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2311"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}