{"id":2284,"date":"2008-03-21T11:04:09","date_gmt":"2008-03-21T16:04:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/2008\/03\/21\/whats-wrong-with-dave-winer\/"},"modified":"2008-03-21T11:04:09","modified_gmt":"2008-03-21T16:04:09","slug":"whats-wrong-with-dave-winer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2008\/03\/21\/whats-wrong-with-dave-winer\/","title":{"rendered":"What’s wrong with Dave Winer"},"content":{"rendered":"

The inventor of blogging, podcasting, RSS and a bunch of other things has a post up about what’s wrong with Wikipedia<\/a> — as he sees it — and as usual the post says a whole lot more about Dave than it does about Wikipedia. Not that there aren’t certain things about Wikipedia that could use some work, because there are. Like any social-media effort, it has its flaws. But I think most of what Dave doesn’t like about Wikipedia has more to do with him than it does with the encyclopedia itself.<\/p>\n

The problems seem to revolve around Dave’s entry — something he has complained a fair bit about in the past — and how it doesn’t give him enough credit for the things he invented (or helped to standardize or popularize, depending on how you look at it). But of course, Dave doesn’t describe it that way: he describes it as<\/a> “a vendetta<\/em>.” That says it all right there. For Dave, there’s no such thing as a difference of opinion — there’s what Dave believes, and then there are the unbelievers who want to destroy what is good and right. He blames the Wikipedia model for:<\/p>\n

“Usurping authority, and replacing it with anonymity and giving power to those who who tear down creativity, to remove the incentive to share, unless you’re completely selfless and don’t mind if others take credit for your accomplishments. That’s not the nature of creativity, btw, creative people fiercely insist on credit, fight for it.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

See how that works? A different opinion of how RSS developed, or podcasting, or whatever isn’t a difference of opinion. It’s “giving power to those who tear down creativity.<\/em>” But is Dave right when he says that the nature of creativity is to “fiercely insist on credit?” I guess for some people it is. Lots of creative people I know do it because they feel compelled to create, and because they want people to experience something — not because they want to “fight for” credit.<\/p>\n

Dave then cites the U.S. constitution for support, arguing that Wikipedia should allow people who don’t like their profiles to “confront their accusers.” As my blogging friend Ian Betteridge notes in the comments<\/a> on Dave’s post, this pretty much sums up why Dave is wrong about Wikipedia. The whole point of the model is to find the middle ground, the common ground, the mututally agreed-upon version of events — not for people to pursue vendettas and confront their accusers. On a side note, Frank Shaw of WaggenerEdstrom is also wrong<\/a> about Wikipedia.<\/p>\n

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The inventor of blogging, podcasting, RSS and a bunch of other things has a post up about what’s wrong with Wikipedia — as he sees it — and as usual the post says a whole lot more about Dave than it does about Wikipedia. Not that there aren’t certain things about Wikipedia that could use … <\/p>\n

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