{"id":221,"date":"2006-02-18T23:40:37","date_gmt":"2006-02-19T04:40:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/index.php\/2006\/02\/18\/hey-dave-you-have-to-let-go-of-rss\/"},"modified":"2006-02-18T23:40:37","modified_gmt":"2006-02-19T04:40:37","slug":"hey-dave-you-have-to-let-go-of-rss","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2006\/02\/18\/hey-dave-you-have-to-let-go-of-rss\/","title":{"rendered":"Hey Dave &#8212; you have to let go of RSS"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Full disclosure: I know diddly-squat about RSS. I know what it does, and I know a little about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.xml.com\/pub\/a\/2002\/12\/18\/dive-into-xml.html\">how it works<\/a>, and I use it &#8211; but I&#8217;m not a programmer, so for example I don&#8217;t know why sometimes my feeds have weird characters in them where the quotes should be, or where the apostrophes are, or whatever. I do know that RSS is important, because it gives people a way of subscribing to blogs and news sources they like, or even of subscribing to individual pieces of a smart news site such as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/rss\/\">the one I work for<\/a>. This allows people to desconstruct the media and reconstruct it in new ways, which is &#8220;a good thing&#8221; <sup><small>TM<\/small><\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p>I also know that the inimitable Dave Winer, who by all accounts is a brilliant programmer and is also <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scripting.com\">a long-time blogger<\/a>, developed RSS and is working on various outgrowths from that, including OPML, which allows the creation of &#8220;reading lists,&#8221; which also looks like a good thing. But at the risk of pissing Dave off so soon after <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/index.php\/2006\/02\/12\/hey-doc-how-about-allowing-comments\/\">my most recent run-in<\/a> with him, it&#8217;s also clear that he is too close to RSS, and too personally invested in it, to the point where he appears to be hindering <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cadenhead.org\/workbench\/news\/2860\/rss-means-never-being-board\">progress in making it better<\/a>. And that&#8217;s &#8220;a bad thing.&#8221; <sup><small>TM<\/small><\/sup><\/p>\n<p>Even digging a little bit into the whole affair gives me the willies, but as far as I can tell, Dave is doing his best to screw around with the RSS Advisory Board, which is run by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cadenhead.org\/workbench\/news\/2860\/rss-means-never-being-board\">Rogers Cadenhead<\/a> &#8211; a guy who (as Steve Kirks <a href=\"http:\/\/houseofwarwick.com\/entries\/00000030.html\">points out<\/a>) has supported Dave when he was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cadenhead.org\/workbench\/news\/1619\/network-nattering-nabobs\">slammed by critics<\/a> and worked with him <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cadenhead.org\/workbench\/news\/2786\/my-reign-king-pings\">at Weblogs.com<\/a>. And yet, Dave suggests in a recent post that the board <a href=\"http:\/\/www.scripting.com\/2006\/02\/17.html#clearingSomethingUp\">no longer exists<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The comments on Roger&#8217;s post, as well as discussions of the topic from <a href=\"http:\/\/darwinianweb.com\/archive\/2006\/261.html\">Adam Green at Darwinian Web<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com\/2006\/02\/18\/unpacking-the-current-rss-controversy-as-a-non-programmer\/\">Marshall Kirkpatrick<\/a> make it obvious that Dave is trying to control RSS, and that this isn&#8217;t the first time he has tried to exert his will and stymie change. I can understand why he feels personally attached to the spec, but that is no reason to stall change. If the board proposes things that aren&#8217;t good, presumably others will resist and criticize, and changes will be made &#8211; that&#8217;s how things work in a democracy, which last time I looked is how these things were supposed to operate. I&#8217;m sure Dave will correct me if I&#8217;m wrong.<\/p>\n<p><b>Update:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Paul Montgomery over at Tinfinger says that the board and I are all wrong, and that <a href=\"http:\/\/tinfinger.blogspot.com\/2006\/02\/dave-winers-right-there-i-said-it.html\">Dave is right<\/a>. Why? For some pretty odd reasons, as far as I can tell. For example, Paul says that RSS needs to be fixed, but says it&#8217;s better to keep it the way it is because that keeps it &#8220;strong;&#8221; he also says that it&#8217;s vague, and that is also a strength &#8211; but the strangest one is when he says that one of the great features of RSS is <a href=\"http:\/\/tinfinger.blogspot.com\/2006\/02\/dave-winers-right-there-i-said-it.html\">&#8220;its poor quality.&#8221;<\/a> That&#8217;s quite the argument you&#8217;ve got there, Paul. For me, I&#8217;d rather have something that changes and evolves and gets better, and to hell with Dave and his ego.<\/p>\n<div class=\"syndication-links\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Full disclosure: I know diddly-squat about RSS. I know what it does, and I know a little about how it works, and I use it &#8211; but I&#8217;m not a programmer, so for example I don&#8217;t know why sometimes my feeds have weird characters in them where the quotes should be, or where the apostrophes &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2006\/02\/18\/hey-dave-you-have-to-let-go-of-rss\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Hey Dave &#8212; you have to let go of RSS&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crsspst_to_mathewingramblogwordpresscom":false,"mf2_syndication":[],"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-221","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/221","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=221"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/221\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=221"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=221"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=221"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}