{"id":2134,"date":"2008-01-20T09:39:36","date_gmt":"2008-01-20T14:39:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/2008\/01\/20\/im-glad-louis-gray-called-out-mashable\/"},"modified":"2008-01-20T09:39:36","modified_gmt":"2008-01-20T14:39:36","slug":"im-glad-louis-gray-called-out-mashable","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2008\/01\/20\/im-glad-louis-gray-called-out-mashable\/","title":{"rendered":"I&#8217;m glad Louis Gray called out Mashable"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of the Mashable blog by Pete Cashmore. They cover technology and the Web like no other blog, and they have some great writers &#8212; like Adam Ostrow, Mark &#8220;Rizzn&#8221; Hopkins, Kristen Nicole and others &#8212; but something has always kind of bothered me about the site, and I&#8217;m glad that Louis Gray <a href=\"http:\/\/www.louisgray.com\/live\/2008\/01\/mashable-uses-list-power-to-steal-b.html\">finally wrote about it<\/a>: Mashable often isn&#8217;t that great at giving credit to the blogs and writers who found an item first.<\/p>\n<p>In his post, Louis is quite rightly upset about a couple of scoops he got, involving the site Readburner and another similar site called Shared Reader. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.louisgray.com\/live\/2008\/01\/mashable-uses-list-power-to-steal-b.html\">In the first case<\/a>, Mashable wrote about the site and gave him no credit whatsoever &#8212; not even a link. In the second case, Louis says that Mashable wrote an item and put a small &#8220;via&#8221; link at the bottom, something they often do. While this is a link, Louis is right that it&#8217;s not very prominent and is easily missed. But at least it&#8217;s a link.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.louisgray.com\/live\/2008\/01\/mashable-uses-list-power-to-steal-b.html\">other example<\/a> he uses is pretty outrageous, however: Louis says a quote he got from Robert Scoble was lifted from his post and used in a Mashable post without any link or attribution whatsoever. I think everyone would agree that taking quotes is pretty offside. Pete has responded in the comments to Louis&#8217;s post, and says he is reviewing the site&#8217;s linking policies, but he doesn&#8217;t say anything about the quote (although the post <a href=\"http:\/\/mashable.com\/2008\/01\/15\/scobles-new-show\/\">has been updated<\/a> with attribution).<\/p>\n<p>Attribution is something that has been &#8212; and is still &#8212; a long-running debate in traditional media as well. Television stations &#8220;rip and read&#8221; newspaper stories, but newspapers themselves routinely take articles from wire services like Reuters or Associated Press and use virtually the entire thing, but put their own writer&#8217;s byline on it. Sometimes they put a small &#8220;with files from&#8221; at the end of the story.<\/p>\n<p>The fact that you can link on the Internet is one of the most powerful forces there is. A link from Mashable can help people find new blogs such as Louis&#8217;s, and they shouldn&#8217;t be stingy with their attribution &#8212; and they definitely shouldn&#8217;t be lifting quotes holus-bolus. I hope Pete and his team can set a good example for others.<\/p>\n<div class=\"syndication-links\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of the Mashable blog by Pete Cashmore. They cover technology and the Web like no other blog, and they have some great writers &#8212; like Adam Ostrow, Mark &#8220;Rizzn&#8221; Hopkins, Kristen Nicole and others &#8212; but something has always kind of bothered me about the site, and I&#8217;m glad that Louis &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2008\/01\/20\/im-glad-louis-gray-called-out-mashable\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;I&#8217;m glad Louis Gray called out Mashable&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_crsspst_to_mathewingramblogwordpresscom":false,"mf2_syndication":[],"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2134","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2134","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2134"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2134\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2134"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2134"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2134"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}