{"id":1812,"date":"2007-10-17T18:46:06","date_gmt":"2007-10-17T22:46:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/2007\/10\/17\/live-blogging-future-of-news-panel\/"},"modified":"2007-10-17T18:46:06","modified_gmt":"2007-10-17T22:46:06","slug":"live-blogging-future-of-news-panel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2007\/10\/17\/live-blogging-future-of-news-panel\/","title":{"rendered":"Live-blogging Future of News panel"},"content":{"rendered":"

(This is my attempt at live-blogging the ONA panel on the future of news at the CBC in Toronto with Leonard Brody of NowPublic<\/a>, Rahaf Harfoush — who did research for Don Tapscott’s book Wikinomics — and Andrew Keen<\/a>, author of Cult of the Amateur. Note: I did this on a BlackBerry, so please excuse the typos)<\/em><\/p>\n

Keen says citizen journalism sounds Orwellian, like a guy in a beret creeping around feeling very virtuous; doesn’t think journalists should necessarily be good citizens; <\/p>\n

Brody says it’s a dumb term, like citizen dentist; says it is “the people’s view”; brand promiscuity; most younger readers don’t read just one thing, they search and read an average of 16 links on a story; <\/p>\n

Rahaf (who is in her 20s) says she bought a newspaper a week ago — for her dad.<\/p>\n

Keen says citizen journalism is part of a fetishization of the authentic, focus on the personal; cultural changes, has very little to do with media; take out your frustrations on something else — doctors or restaurants, don’t ruin media; big media has as much responsibility as anyone else; bowing to reality television and cult of celebrity;<\/p>\n

Keen says big media should be less humble, more arrogant, more authoritative; saying we understand, you need a voice is … Recipe for disaster;<\/p>\n

If you take that view, Brody says, you will be speaking to an empty room. It’s not good or bad, it just is.<\/p>\n

Rahaf says having an arrogant journalist tell me what’s important, not interested in that; interested in a dialogue, and in individual voices.<\/p>\n

Public view, human perspective and don’t trust single view — want to triangulate truth on my own Brody says; he says the vast majority of people don’t want to be paid; if they did it would be easier — love and ego are much harder to control;<\/p>\n

Keen says when we generate something of value most of us want to be paid; not going to give away my labour for nothing; youtube model or wikipedia model, vessel they put their information into, bad in every way; one of the things that keep journalists honest is that they’re paid<\/p>\n

Rahaf says that blogs have to develop a reputation, build up trust over time, effectively self-regulating; social contract<\/p>\n

Brody says they want to be arbiters of their own truth;<\/p>\n

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Keen says no wisdom of crowds with Digg and Reddit — he sees new anonymous oligarchy with these sites; idealism of the Web 2.0 crowd, but reality is it’s an echo chamber, people becoming more and more ignorant;<\/p>\n

Brody says moved away from the Long Tail to the nano-tail, the hyper-personal, Facebook feeds etc. Keen says that’s not news it’s just gossip;<\/p>\n

Availability of different perspectives, Rahaf says, not trying to guide traditional media;<\/p>\n

Keen says we can’t learn anything from children (after journalism students give their views of the future of journalism); says they are naieve and should probably get a job in a kitchen or something because they won’t have jobs — no one will pay them for their work.<\/p>\n

Brody says he’s not that idealistic about it — it’s really just a technological split between breaking news and the analysis; newspapers like the New York Times are out of the breaking news business, but the need for analysis is still there;<\/p>\n

Keen says hyper-local is the future, but Craig Newmark has ruined that business for traditional media, so taken away the ability to monetize local.<\/p>\n

Rahaf says it’s about whether you care or don’t care — you could take away the Internet and put someone in a newsstand and if they don’t care about the news they will pick up a Cosmopolitan or whatever; doesn’t have that much to do with the Internet;<\/p>\n

Brody says that the real potential of news is when you have GPS and you can see where people are and how close they are to a news event;<\/p>\n

Keen says need to educate kids about the difference between a newspaper like the Times or the Guardian and blogs; teach them that some media sources have gatekeepers and are generally more reliable and some are not; media literacy is one of the things we need the most;<\/p>\n

Questioner who is a media literacy educator, says she wonders whether kids are getting too used to reading about and paying attention only to others like them; they expect things to be highly tailored, and if it isn’t they’re not interested; what does that mean for them as citizens;<\/p>\n

Brody says need to go back to what journalists were originally good at — pulling things together, aggregating and packaging, and presenting it; think that there will be an even greater hunger for that in the future;<\/p>\n

Keen says he is actually optimistic about Web 2.0 tools because they can do a lot — if they are in the right hands; he says the new new thing will be expertise, now that people have realized that most of Web 2.0 is garbage.<\/p>\n

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(This is my attempt at live-blogging the ONA panel on the future of news at the CBC in Toronto with Leonard Brody of NowPublic, Rahaf Harfoush — who did research for Don Tapscott’s book Wikinomics — and Andrew Keen, author of Cult of the Amateur. Note: I did this on a BlackBerry, so please excuse … <\/p>\n

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