{"id":11929,"date":"2016-10-07T04:35:00","date_gmt":"2016-10-07T09:35:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/?p=11929"},"modified":"2024-12-05T14:00:12","modified_gmt":"2024-12-05T19:00:12","slug":"why-did-it-take-so-long-for-the-new-york-times-to-tell-the-truth","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2016\/10\/07\/why-did-it-take-so-long-for-the-new-york-times-to-tell-the-truth\/","title":{"rendered":"Why did it take so long for the New York Times to tell the truth?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"525\" height=\"263\" data-attachment-id=\"269635\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2016\/10\/07\/why-did-it-take-so-long-for-the-new-york-times-to-tell-the-truth\/image-386\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/image-5.png?fit=1200%2C600&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,600\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/image-5.png?fit=525%2C263&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/image-5.png?resize=525%2C263&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-269635\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/image-5.png?resize=1024%2C512&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/image-5.png?resize=300%2C150&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/image-5.png?resize=768%2C384&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/image-5.png?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are a lot of things we can blame Donald Trump for, but the Republican presidential candidate has accomplished at least one thing of value: By lying so repeatedly and enthusiastically, he has managed to convince the <em>New York Times<\/em> that it needed to be more skeptical.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This assessment comes from the <em>Times<\/em>&#8216; executive editor Dean Baquet, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.niemanlab.org\/2016\/10\/the-new-york-times-dean-baquet-on-calling-out-lies-embracing-video-and-building-a-more-digital-newsroom\/?utm_source=digg\">in a recent interview<\/a> with media analyst Ken Doctor, published by the Nieman Journalism Lab.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Before Trump came along, Baquet says the paper struggled with how to call out lies. &#8220;I think that Trump has ended that struggle,&#8221; he says. &#8220;I think we now say stuff. We fact-check him. We write it more powerfully that it&#8217;s false.&#8221; Doctor suggests Trump gave the <em>Times<\/em> &#8220;the courage&#8221; to assert the truth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Courage? If you&#8217;re not a media insider, this might strike you as a little odd. Shouldn&#8217;t the <em>New York Times<\/em> of all places be skeptical when it comes to political statements in particular?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Note<\/strong>: This was\u00a0originally published\u00a0at Fortune, where I was a senior writer from 2015 to 2017<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It&#8217;s not just that the <em>Times<\/em> is one of the world&#8217;s leading journalistic outlets. The paper also got a very painful reminder of how dangerous it can be to accept what politicians say at face value, when its reporting on the lead-up to the Iraq War turned out to be <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Judith_Miller\">a tissue of lies fed<\/a> to one of its reporters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Baquet even refers to this in his interview, saying part of the problem with the <em>Times<\/em>&#8216; Iraq coverage was that the paper and its reporters &#8220;tend to believe what politicians tell us.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;The dirty secret of news organizations \u2014 and I think this is part of a story of what happened with Bush and the Iraq war \u2014 [is that] newspaper reporters and newspapers describe the world we live in,&#8221; Baquet says. &#8220;We actually tend to believe what politicians tell us \u2014 which is a flaw, by the way.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The lesson of the Iraq war, the <em>Times<\/em> editor says, was that &#8220;I don\u2019t think people really believed that the administration would actually lie about the WMDs. Who really believed that Colin Powell would get up in front of the United Nations, a guy who was known for integrity? I think that was a shock to the system.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This shock to the system occurred in 2003. So why did it take more than a decade and the rise of Donald Trump to convince the <em>New York Times<\/em> that it should call a lie what it is?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Baquet doesn&#8217;t say. He just agrees with Doctor that &#8220;he gave us courage, if you will. I think he made us \u2014 forced us, because he does it so often, to get comfortable with saying something is false.&#8221; But why would a journalistic entity have to get comfortable with calling something a lie?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The answer, as <em>New York Times<\/em> media writer Jim Rutenberg suggested in a recent piece, probably has something to do with the commitment that the media has always had to the principle of objectivity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In much the same way that journalists like Chris Wallace <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediaite.com\/tv\/debate-moderator-chris-wallace-not-my-job-to-be-truth-squad-if-candidates-lie\/\">have said they don&#8217;t believe<\/a> debate moderators should call out lies, because that would be equivalent to expressing an opinion, the <em>Times<\/em> and other newspapers have always believed that journalists should be rigorously balanced at all times.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As recently as 2012, the Times&#8217; former public editor <a href=\"http:\/\/publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com\/2012\/01\/12\/should-the-times-be-a-truth-vigilante\/\">was asking whether<\/a> the paper&#8217;s reporters were supposed to be &#8220;truth vigilantes&#8221; by fact-checking the statements of politicians during interviews. Just the fact that this question had to be asked said a lot about the paper&#8217;s approach.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Where this traditional &#8220;view from nowhere&#8221; (as NYU journalism professor Jay Rosen <a href=\"http:\/\/pressthink.org\/2010\/11\/the-view-from-nowhere-questions-and-answers\/\">has called it<\/a>) falls down is when someone like Trump says things to which there is no rational response other than &#8220;that&#8217;s a lie.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So perhaps we should thank the Republican candidate for finally convincing the <em>New York Times<\/em> that it&#8217;s okay to say someone is flat out lying when that&#8217;s clearly what is happening. Let&#8217;s hope they continue to do so even after the current election campaign is over. It would have been nice if they had started a little sooner.<\/p>\n<div class=\"syndication-links\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are a lot of things we can blame Donald Trump for, but the Republican presidential candidate has accomplished at least one thing of value: By lying so repeatedly and enthusiastically, he has managed to convince the New York Times that it needed to be more skeptical. 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