{"id":11899,"date":"2016-09-26T23:10:00","date_gmt":"2016-09-27T04:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mathewingram.com\/work\/?p=11899"},"modified":"2024-12-05T14:21:28","modified_gmt":"2024-12-05T19:21:28","slug":"fact-checking-is-the-medias-job-whether-its-during-a-debate-or-not","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2016\/09\/26\/fact-checking-is-the-medias-job-whether-its-during-a-debate-or-not\/","title":{"rendered":"Fact checking is the media&#8217;s job whether it&#8217;s during a debate or not"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"525\" height=\"263\" data-attachment-id=\"269649\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mathewingram.com\/work\/2016\/09\/26\/fact-checking-is-the-medias-job-whether-its-during-a-debate-or-not\/image-393\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/image-4.png?fit=1200%2C600&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,600\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"image\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/image-4.png?fit=525%2C263&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/image-4.png?resize=525%2C263&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-269649\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/image-4.png?resize=1024%2C512&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/image-4.png?resize=300%2C150&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/image-4.png?resize=768%2C384&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mathewingram.com\/work\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/image-4.png?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 767px) 89vw, (max-width: 1000px) 54vw, (max-width: 1071px) 543px, 580px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It says a lot about the state of the U.S. election campaign that one of the most hotly debated topics is whether a debate moderator should call out obvious lies by either Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton when they face each other Monday night.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To someone who hasn&#8217;t been following the circus sideshow\/train wreck that is the Election 2016 campaign, this might seem like a bizarre thing to get hung up on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After all, isn&#8217;t checking facts what journalists are supposed to do\u2014even cable TV journalists? Isn&#8217;t that why we have journalists as debate moderators in the first place? As with many things involving Trump, it isn&#8217;t quite that simple.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lester Holt, the NBC news anchor who is moderating the first debate Monday night, hasn&#8217;t said whether he plans to call out any untruths, but according to Politico, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/story\/2016\/09\/presidential-debate-fact-checking-228653\">none of the major networks<\/a> have committed to doing real-time fact checking of the debates.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em><strong>Note<\/strong>: This was\u00a0originally published\u00a0at Fortune, where I was a senior writer from 2015 to 2017<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The only TV provider who has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/blogs\/on-media\/2016\/09\/bloomberg-to-fact-check-debate-on-screen-228670\">committed to doing so<\/a> is Bloomberg TV\u2014which also means that fact checking will appear on Twitter&#8217;s live stream, since the service is broadcasting the channel&#8217;s coverage <a href=\"http:\/\/fortune.com\/2016\/09\/21\/twitter-bloomberg\/\">as part of<\/a> a partnership with Bloomberg Media.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Why wouldn&#8217;t news networks commit to doing this? Because many seem to believe, as bizarre as it may seem, that this isn&#8217;t what the presidential debates are for.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While Holt has been mum on the topic, Fox News host Chris Wallace, who will be moderating one of the upcoming debates, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mediaite.com\/tv\/debate-moderator-chris-wallace-not-my-job-to-be-truth-squad-if-candidates-lie\/\">said recently<\/a> that he didn&#8217;t believe it was his job to be a &#8220;truth squad.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Chris Matthews of MSNBC said that calling out Trump&#8217;s lies <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/wilw\/status\/773707216864022528\">would be equivalent to<\/a> expressing an opinion, which journalists aren&#8217;t supposed to do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Those comments came in the wake of NBC anchor Matt Lauer&#8217;s performance during recent back-to-back interviews with Trump and Clinton, <a href=\"http:\/\/fortune.com\/2016\/09\/08\/matt-lauer-trump\/\">in which he was widely criticized<\/a> for letting Trump get away with saying he opposed the Iraq War when there is ample evidence that he did not.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">More recently, the head of the debate commission <a href=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/2016\/09\/25\/media\/janet-brown-presidential-debate\/index.html\">said that moderators<\/a> shouldn&#8217;t get involved in checking the facts expressed by candidates. And Trump himself said Thursday that Holt should stay out of the debate and allow him and Hillary Clinton to &#8220;take each other on&#8221; over the facts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Opponents of real-time fact-checking effectively agree with Trump, and believe that the candidates should be the ones to call each other out on their lies or misstatements of fact.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"525\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">What prevents HRC herself from &quot;fact-checking&quot; Trump if necessary? Why whine for the moderators to intervene when she can just do it?<\/p>&mdash; Michael Tracey (@mtracey) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mtracey\/status\/780384005506097152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 26, 2016<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Long-time CBS News anchor and debate moderator Bob Schieffer <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/story\/2016\/09\/presidential-debate-fact-checking-228653\">told Politico the most important<\/a> job of a moderator is to ensure that the debate stays on track and that each candidate gets the right amount of time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This vision of the purpose of the debates sees the moderator as serving essentially the same function as a referee during a boxing match.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While that approach might have worked in previous election campaigns, however, Election 2016 is no ordinary campaign. Objectively speaking, Donald Trump <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/magazine\/story\/2016\/09\/2016-donald-trump-fact-check-week-214287\">routinely lies<\/a> or makes up statements that appear to be factual but aren&#8217;t\u2014in some cases, dozens of them during the course of a single day. So how should the debate format handle that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"525\" data-dnt=\"true\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">The truth matters. <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PolitiFact?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@PolitiFact<\/a> and the Washington Post have given Trump False, Pants on Fire or 4 Pinocchios 187 times (1\/189)<\/p>&mdash; Josh Schwerin (@JoshSchwerin) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/JoshSchwerin\/status\/780391255880630274?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 26, 2016<\/a><\/blockquote><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Former <em>New York Times<\/em> public editor Margaret Sullivan argued in a recent column in the <em>Washington Post<\/em> that moderators <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/lifestyle\/style\/five-things-the-presidential-debate-moderators-must-do\/2016\/09\/13\/3120aaf0-79bb-11e6-ac8e-cf8e0dd91dc7_story.html\">have a duty to call out<\/a> lies and inaccuracies during a debate, and it&#8217;s likely that many voters and TV watchers would agree.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;If journalists aren\u2019t interested in being part of the truth squad, they should find another sport,&#8221; Sullivan said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A larger\u2014and potentially unsolveable\u2014problem, however, is that even if Donald Trump&#8217;s inaccuracies or outright falsehoods are called out by a debate moderator or any other journalist, it may not change anyone&#8217;s mind about whether to vote for him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Media analyst and sociologist Clay Shirky <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/cshirky\/status\/756569741020377088\">said recently on Twitter<\/a> that fact-checking Trump amounts to &#8220;bringing a fact-checker to a culture war,&#8221;\u2014a paraphrase of the usual &#8220;bring a knife to a gun-fight&#8221; analogy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There is a certain amount of truth to that statement. It&#8217;s what people are getting at when they describe the Trump campaign as part of a &#8220;post-truth&#8221; landscape in politics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Regardless of whether it is ultimately futile, however, checking the facts that a presidential candidate puts forward in a campaign debate watched by potentially hundreds of millions of people <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usnews.com\/opinion\/articles\/2016-09-23\/debate-moderators-cannot-allow-the-candidates-to-twist-the-facts\">seems like a valuable effort<\/a> for the media to make. Unless they see their primary job as being to sell popcorn while the circus is in town.<\/p>\n<div class=\"syndication-links\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It says a lot about the state of the U.S. election campaign that one of the most hotly debated topics is whether a debate moderator should call out obvious lies by either Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton when they face each other Monday night. 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